Ah my bad, I did completely forget that pick 7 trade yes but seriously mate, you're smart enough to understand context without only spitting out what supports your so called argument. Utah won 31 games I think if I checked the right years standings so the pick had plenty of promise unless you have a crystal ball, mine was late of course but futures can be anything. The draft wasn't great outside the top 5 also and I didn't scout a lot so it was a flyer but it was pretty fair pay we thought.
Turner? I can't remember without searching back but pretty sure that NYK pick was a late pick. Turner had more value as a player back then I guess but if you consider that an overpay or shark moves, all good. I won't even mention the fact 30 GMs probably value the same players 30 different ways and opinions are like assholes, we've all got them so all good.
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Im not saying its bad to rob other teams, and yeah it is all just my opinion. In my opinion the trades were bad at the time.bt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:54 am Ah my bad, I did completely forget that pick 7 trade yes but seriously mate, you're smart enough to understand context without only spitting out what supports your so called argument. Utah won 31 games I think if I checked the right years standings so the pick had plenty of promise unless you have a crystal ball, mine was late of course but futures can be anything. The draft wasn't great outside the top 5 also and I didn't scout a lot so it was a flyer but it was pretty fair pay we thought.
Turner? I can't remember without searching back but pretty sure that NYK pick was a late pick. Turner had more value as a player back then I guess but if you consider that an overpay or shark moves, all good. I won't even mention the fact 30 GMs probably value the same players 30 different ways and opinions are like assholes, we've all got them so all good.
The results speak for them self, to become elite with multiple top picks you have to either be a shark in the trade market or be coming out of a really long rebuild.
As for Willy he's been struggling for near a decade, I have seen him say i made this trade because i like this person, or i wouldnt have made this trade if i knew my pick was going to that person. Im not saying he cant run his team however he wants, im just using this info to predict the west will be quite a bit stronger than the east in the near future The debate took quite the turn from that point.
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I still think I'm the only guy you offered half your team for Zion. A two time champ gutting half their team..Silogical wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:20 pmIt was Owens for just #11, that's how everyone should trade, you have to do your due diligence. I need to move Owens so I start at #11 move to #12 and keep moving up I got up to #30 didnt happen so I traded Owens away for 3m cap space.WillyJakkz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:00 pm
I'm just trying to GM my team man and yeah I really like those guys.
Also maybe they always have someone or something I feel is of value and vice versa and it benefits me and them as well vs a trade proposal you'd make to me for example if you still had Tariq Owens you'd offer him for #1 then gaslight how good he is how he'd change my team around. Like last draft you offered him for a couple of my lotto 1sts.
So yeah I'd say that is logical for me to pass on your offer and trade for KAT etc with KW which turns out to be Hayes Duarte #10 for Bam 3 1sts.
Looking at it now, maybe I should have taken what your ultimately offered.
Then there's another gm offering a prospect he doesn't start and a 5th starter, thinking it was fair value, saying Zion isn't worth more.
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What did you see Willy say when he traded Roy Hibbert Gordon Hayward RJ Hunter 2 ORL 1sts for DeMarcus Cousins to you?Silogical wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 5:47 pmIm not saying its bad to rob other teams, and yeah it is all just my opinion. In my opinion the trades were bad at the time.bt wrote: ↑Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:54 am Ah my bad, I did completely forget that pick 7 trade yes but seriously mate, you're smart enough to understand context without only spitting out what supports your so called argument. Utah won 31 games I think if I checked the right years standings so the pick had plenty of promise unless you have a crystal ball, mine was late of course but futures can be anything. The draft wasn't great outside the top 5 also and I didn't scout a lot so it was a flyer but it was pretty fair pay we thought.
Turner? I can't remember without searching back but pretty sure that NYK pick was a late pick. Turner had more value as a player back then I guess but if you consider that an overpay or shark moves, all good. I won't even mention the fact 30 GMs probably value the same players 30 different ways and opinions are like assholes, we've all got them so all good.
The results speak for them self, to become elite with multiple top picks you have to either be a shark in the trade market or be coming out of a really long rebuild.
As for Willy he's been struggling for near a decade, I have seen him say i made this trade because i like this person, or i wouldnt have made this trade if i knew my pick was going to that person. Im not saying he cant run his team however he wants, im just using this info to predict the west will be quite a bit stronger than the east in the near future The debate took quite the turn from that point.
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I offered you my whole roster for Zion in the offseason Andrew, you just had to wait a bit
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You said you were optimistic about PG/Bosh/Cousins. It looks like it worked out for you you won a lot of games in that time period.WillyJakkz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:14 am
What did you see Willy say when he traded Roy Hibbert Gordon Hayward RJ Hunter 2 ORL 1sts for DeMarcus Cousins to you?
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I believe that was our 1st and only trade. I was still a noob back then. I shouldve went for a real rebuild instead of trying to rebuild while still fighting for 1st round exits. Live and learn.
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Looking at the history i got nothing out of the picks.Silogical wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:07 pmYou said you were optimistic about PG/Bosh/Cousins. It looks like it worked out for you you won a lot of games in that time period.WillyJakkz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:14 am
What did you see Willy say when he traded Roy Hibbert Gordon Hayward RJ Hunter 2 ORL 1sts for DeMarcus Cousins to you?
https://www.championsimleague.com/viewt ... =19&t=4167
I believe that was our 1st and only trade. I was still a noob back then. I shouldve went for a real rebuild instead of trying to rebuild while still fighting for 1st round exits. Live and learn.
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