League File | Player Potential Database | Standings | Schedule | League Leaders | Free Agents | Coaches | CSLO | D-League Standings | D-League Leaders

Pre-season/File Planning

User avatar
drumr
CEO
Posts: 2610
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:17 am
Contact:

Re: Pre-season/File Planning

Post by drumr »

It makes sense to me. There's no reason to nerf players in the 40s for example. That's unrealistic. I say reserve judgement till it's seen in action 1st
Cleveland Cavaliers
2018-2019 -- ( 52-30 )
2019-2020 -- ( 53-29 )
2020-2021 -- ( 54-28 )
2022-2023 -- (46-36)
NEW CLAMP CITY
feat. Payton, Holiday, Young, Collins, Londale
Image

User avatar
Silogical
CSL Champ 2026
Posts: 3050
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:24 am
Contact:

Re: Pre-season/File Planning

Post by Silogical »

drumr wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:20 pm It makes sense to me. There's no reason to nerf players in the 40s for example. That's unrealistic. I say reserve judgement till it's seen in action 1st
Elite blkers were buffed in 22 so it makes sense they are nerfed in some way. I dont think there should be a hard cap though.

85 blker is better than 80 blker in 2019
They both need to be nerfed but 85 should still be better than 80 in 2022

User avatar
Dennis
CSL Champ 2028
Posts: 9869
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:19 am
Location: Düsseldorf
Contact:

Re: Pre-season/File Planning

Post by Dennis »

drumr wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:20 pm It makes sense to me. There's no reason to nerf players in the 40s for example. That's unrealistic. I say reserve judgement till it's seen in action 1st
Why would that be unrealistic? If block is as strong as said - even though weird it was boosted first - also lower ones will be stronger in blocking. Also, more about fairness to the league. If difference between 55 rated block and 70 block rated player isn’t the same as before it’s definitely a huge impact on the strength of teams/players.

Steal back then was changed for all the same. So it was fair. Btw, I can see why you are happy with some mid 50 guys in blocking :P. I’m just no fan if admins interfere with the balance of power of the league between the teams.
Boston Celtics Hall of Fame
PG G. Dragic [7] - Jersey Retired <> 2013 - 2015
PG R. Westbrook [0] - Jersey Retired <> 2016 - 2019

Fox - Johnson - Bridges - Hlinason - Whiteside
CSL Champions Image 2028

User avatar
Dennis
CSL Champ 2028
Posts: 9869
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:19 am
Location: Düsseldorf
Contact:

Re: Pre-season/File Planning

Post by Dennis »

What I just notice now. Holy shit. Strong blocking guards ~60 now became monsters. They basically didn’t lose block ratings at all but are only like 6-10 points away from best blockers overall. Crazy.
Boston Celtics Hall of Fame
PG G. Dragic [7] - Jersey Retired <> 2013 - 2015
PG R. Westbrook [0] - Jersey Retired <> 2016 - 2019

Fox - Johnson - Bridges - Hlinason - Whiteside
CSL Champions Image 2028

User avatar
emplep7
Commissioner & CSL Champ 2018
Posts: 6284
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Pre-season/File Planning

Post by emplep7 »

Dennis wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:12 pm What I just notice now. Holy shit. Strong blocking guards ~60 now became monsters. They basically didn’t lose block ratings at all but are only like 6-10 points away from best blockers overall. Crazy.
I mean I know you don’t actually believe that the game would have a guard at 6’3 with a BLK rating of 60 average the same number of blocks as a PF at 6’10 with the same rating. DDS has always tied height and position directly to blocking ability. A guard with a rating of 90 averaged around 1.5 +/- 0.5 bpg where Ayton averaged over 6 with that same rating.
Image

User avatar
Dennis
CSL Champ 2028
Posts: 9869
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:19 am
Location: Düsseldorf
Contact:

Re: Pre-season/File Planning

Post by Dennis »

emplep7 wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:22 pm
Dennis wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:12 pm What I just notice now. Holy shit. Strong blocking guards ~60 now became monsters. They basically didn’t lose block ratings at all but are only like 6-10 points away from best blockers overall. Crazy.
I mean I know you don’t actually believe that the game would have a guard at 6’3 with a BLK rating of 60 average the same number of blocks as a PF at 6’10 with the same rating. DDS has always tied height and position directly to blocking ability. A guard with a rating of 90 averaged around 1.5 +/- 0.5 bpg where Ayton averaged over 6 with that same rating.
We will see in preseason. But in my file it was ~1.7 blocks for 60 rated BLK guard vs ~2.1 for a ~60 rated big. ~70 rated bigs checked out at 2.6 highest.
Boston Celtics Hall of Fame
PG G. Dragic [7] - Jersey Retired <> 2013 - 2015
PG R. Westbrook [0] - Jersey Retired <> 2016 - 2019

Fox - Johnson - Bridges - Hlinason - Whiteside
CSL Champions Image 2028

User avatar
KW
CSL Champ 2017
Posts: 9172
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:18 am
Location: CO
Contact:

Re: Pre-season/File Planning

Post by KW »

has there been any consideration to letting us *increase* a players PASS% ? Certain players that were ok in 19 simply are not working in this engine, and jacking up Drive/Pass doesn't seem to do what it used to, still results in a ton of shots, usually bad shots. A lot of those players, especially forwards/bigs have very low PASS%

User avatar
emplep7
Commissioner & CSL Champ 2018
Posts: 6284
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Pre-season/File Planning

Post by emplep7 »

Dennis wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:10 am
emplep7 wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:22 pm
Dennis wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:12 pm What I just notice now. Holy shit. Strong blocking guards ~60 now became monsters. They basically didn’t lose block ratings at all but are only like 6-10 points away from best blockers overall. Crazy.
I mean I know you don’t actually believe that the game would have a guard at 6’3 with a BLK rating of 60 average the same number of blocks as a PF at 6’10 with the same rating. DDS has always tied height and position directly to blocking ability. A guard with a rating of 90 averaged around 1.5 +/- 0.5 bpg where Ayton averaged over 6 with that same rating.
We will see in preseason. But in my file it was ~1.7 blocks for 60 rated BLK guard vs ~2.1 for a ~60 rated big. ~70 rated bigs checked out at 2.6 highest.
Yeah, I mean once everyone is setting different strats we are seeing different results so if this pre-season shows that then we're still open to doing a global adjustment.
Image

User avatar
emplep7
Commissioner & CSL Champ 2018
Posts: 6284
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Pre-season/File Planning

Post by emplep7 »

KW wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:32 pm has there been any consideration to letting us *increase* a players PASS% ? Certain players that were ok in 19 simply are not working in this engine, and jacking up Drive/Pass doesn't seem to do what it used to, still results in a ton of shots, usually bad shots. A lot of those players, especially forwards/bigs have very low PASS%
Thats an interesting question since we mostly dont want anyone to lower the PASS%. Andre and myself will talk this over about incorporating this into the first lump set of changes for the regular season and communicate out what the plan will be for that.
Image

User avatar
KW
CSL Champ 2017
Posts: 9172
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:18 am
Location: CO
Contact:

Re: Pre-season/File Planning

Post by KW »

emplep7 wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:10 pm
KW wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:32 pm has there been any consideration to letting us *increase* a players PASS% ? Certain players that were ok in 19 simply are not working in this engine, and jacking up Drive/Pass doesn't seem to do what it used to, still results in a ton of shots, usually bad shots. A lot of those players, especially forwards/bigs have very low PASS%
Thats an interesting question since we mostly dont want anyone to lower the PASS%. Andre and myself will talk this over about incorporating this into the first lump set of changes for the regular season and communicate out what the plan will be for that.
understandable- i was only considering it as a one-time thing to happen as part of the transition.

User avatar
Silogical
CSL Champ 2026
Posts: 3050
Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:24 am
Contact:

Re: Pre-season/File Planning

Post by Silogical »

.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest