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Choke City Podcast - East vs West Showdown: Part 3 - Live Sim

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Hi everyone,

This is part 3 of the East vs West Showdown. With me is special guest Jon to perform the live sim and comment on the game.

Here's the live sim podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yet8S0mQQv0


Box Score of the game:
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Hope everyone enjoys the finale to this series! Thanks again to Marcos, Jon and Andre for helping make this series happen
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That's what happens when you play Elfrid Payton 8 minutes. ;)
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damn the four Rockets on this team didn't even have to roll out of bed to beat that sorry ass East squad
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bagley, towns and mitchell leading the west
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The east sub matrix lost this game, one of Davis/Simmons shouldve been on the court at all times. The east bench were -29 in 20 minutes. Doiug played this like a playoff game marcos played it like an all-star game.

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Oh boy, poor East team.
It looks like Doug is indeed knowing what he is doing, who would have thought :lol:

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Have to listen to the podcast tho. Hope Marcos tells us what players quit on him :-)

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No voting this year? :(
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Andrewu91 wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 1:35 pm No voting this year? :(
Not this year, we did it a little different. Next year the voting will be back with a potential twist which was discussed in this podcast
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We got beaten pretty hard!

But that's fine, I wanted to do that as an exhibition game, indeed like Silo said my DC reflected that. Our bench lost the game, but that's fine!
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Damn, East did not play well at all lol.
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A few thoughts here.

1) The West's starters averaged 28.8 mins vs the East's 28 mins. So the narrative the East didn't play their starters as long is not true.

2) The main difference in playing time was that the West played their 6th and 7th men vs the East which split up their bench minutes between their 6th through 10th men. Given the depth and talent advantage of the East, that's not an excuse to lose by 18 points. To a lesser extent, it doesn't look like the East staggered their lineups as much. But again, given the talent/depth the East had, their bench should not have been blown out that badly, and their 1st unit should have been much more dominating.

3) Yeah, I treated it more like a playoff game (while sticking with the minutes restrictions) because that was the point of the showdown. Otherwise it's not much different to other all-star games. The point was to see what would happen when both GMs played to win and put together the roster, DC, and strats to try to accomplish that.
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Wow, Mitchell carried the West on his back!
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I was finally able to watch the podcast and was surprised to hear Jon instead of Marcos :-)
And I have to admit it was the first time I saw the game simulation in the 2019 version, totally forgot the game has that lol

But it made for a good show and a good beating for the East. And seeing it makes the performance of Mitchell, Bagley and Monk even more impressive. They actually could hit a shot, not like the brick champions on the East.
Good job guys, that was entertaining.
Still, I think best of 7 goes to the East :P

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GreenBear wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:11 pm A few thoughts here.

1) The West's starters averaged 28.8 mins vs the East's 28 mins. So the narrative the East didn't play their starters as long is not true.

2) The main difference in playing time was that the West played their 6th and 7th men vs the East which split up their bench minutes between their 6th through 10th men. Given the depth and talent advantage of the East, that's not an excuse to lose by 18 points. To a lesser extent, it doesn't look like the East staggered their lineups as much. But again, given the talent/depth the East had, their bench should not have been blown out that badly, and their 1st unit should have been much more dominating.

3) Yeah, I treated it more like a playoff game (while sticking with the minutes restrictions) because that was the point of the showdown. Otherwise it's not much different to other all-star games. The point was to see what would happen when both GMs played to win and put together the roster, DC, and strats to try to accomplish that.
1) minutesd werent the issue, although having the easts best players play 32 minutes wouldve helped.

2) the main difference was the west staggered and the east didnt. There is diminishing returns with AD and Simmons they needed to be split up so one is on the court the entire game. That wouldve significantly helped the bench. While not hurting the starters.

3) It was basically a playoff rotation vs an exhibition rotation. Nothing wrong with that, we still got to see how good mitchell is.

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