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Finally had a chance to really read this over and I tend to agree on your list for the most part. Others (including you Dennis) mentioned defense isn't rated as highly as I like but given how difficult it is to judge these guys I really respect the effort here. I think my next article will be a league article as opposed to a Raptors one. What I find interesting is the top teams all have something in common - elite scouting and smart drafting.
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Except Kings never scout.

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I'll read later but tough article to do. Will be 30 different listings obviously as everyone has different opinions.
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Jestor wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:59 am Except Kings never scout.
and don't get guys like Taylor or Okaro or any of those other talents with late picks.

We scouted 2 or 3 of the years for our later picks (and did last year and have this year) but there is a ton of valuable info in the draft area if you look closely. Even minor things like Boatright as a late second, one article mentioned he's the best passer and for a late second, you do it because at worse, it's still a great pick at that point.

You sometimes hit as well when you have so many picks and chances ;)

Although a lot of it is luck in boosts and development. Could have taken Taylor but the draft stuff to me had Cousins and Whitehead ahead of him.
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tremont waters | skylar mays | nigel johnson
matisse thybulle | justin james
robert franks | darius bazely | john butler
donta hall | xavier tillman | patrick williams
jon collins | jonathan isaac | norvel pelle | mfiondu kabengele


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I'm still salty you stole White a pick ahead of me, though I flipped my pick into the Pacers 24, so it may work out after all.

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My list would have a different order likely but honestly that hardly matters. I love the idea of the article DJ. Great job right there. And that listed there is the future of CSL
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Jestor wrote: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:54 am I'm still salty you stole White a pick ahead of me, though I flipped my pick into the Pacers 24, so it may work out after all.
Ah, that's right.. understandable then :D
sacramento kings

tremont waters | skylar mays | nigel johnson
matisse thybulle | justin james
robert franks | darius bazely | john butler
donta hall | xavier tillman | patrick williams
jon collins | jonathan isaac | norvel pelle | mfiondu kabengele


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I understand the pressure of being a #1 pick as expectations are very high and, to some extent, Ingram has not met those expectations on the offensive end, but I'm absolutely in love with Ingram's production and will draft him again with that pick. He is a unique defensive player: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=9428
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BizGilwalker wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 4:09 am
Dennis wrote: Fri May 31, 2019 3:58 am Monks d keeps him from the top10 imo.
I'm struggling with this take when SJJ and Taylor are finding themselves at #6 and #8.

And yes your concerns about the "potential" guys are definitely valid.
I get the feeling Taylor isn't your kind of guy considering this comment, followed by you not even mentioning him on your list haha. To each their own, I'm not going to try to convince others whether he should or shouldn't be on this list.

That being said, did you really just put Taylor in the same category as SJJ defensively? In what world does 65 DEF and 62 STL mean that player's a bad defensive SG? From your comments, you'd think he was Bradley Beal defensively or something. Don't get me wrong, he's not an elite defender or even a good one per se. But he is solid, no better, no worse.

I'm not sure if it's just your misconception of him or whether you actually looked at his defensive ratings, but Taylor is a better defender than a good number of the players you put on your list.

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