Declining TOs / Bird Rights

Sun Scorched · Post by **Sun Scorched** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:40 pm

Quick question all.

When you decline a player option, do you also lose bird rights on that player? I've been under the impression that a team/player declining an option would still allow the mother team to retain rights, and to be able to sign that player to a bird exception.

Thoughts?

Post by **Dennis** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:46 pm

Damn, that's a question I can't answer. No idea how the engine handles it.

Post by **wms02a** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:47 pm

Sun Scorched wrote:Quick question all.

When you decline a player option, do you also lose bird rights on that player? I've been under the impression that a team/player declining an option would still allow the mother team to retain rights, and to be able to sign that player to a bird exception.

Thoughts?

I believe you keep the bird rights

Post by **andrei** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:49 pm

You keep bird rights

Sun Scorched · Post by **Sun Scorched** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:56 pm

andrei wrote:You keep bird rights

Hmmm, well I know I lost my rights, hence the question. Noticed it happened to Rizzo also.

Post by **andrei** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:26 pm

Sun Scorched wrote:
andrei wrote:You keep bird rights
Hmmm, well I know I lost my rights, hence the question. Noticed it happened to Rizzo also.

I know the Simmer proactively renounced (Thanks Simmer) my declined TO for Shumpert so maybe the same happened to you.

Ocons · Post by **Ocons** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:12 pm

Question on TOs. . . .can a player with an option be traded and the receiving team decline the TO? I feel like that's been acceptable before but want to be clear before getting too deep in trade discussions.

Post by **Myles** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:17 pm

Ocons wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:12 pm Question on TOs. . . .can a player with an option be traded and the receiving team decline the TO? I feel like that's been acceptable before but want to be clear before getting too deep in trade discussions.

Took me a while to find it, but under trade rules it does state that if a player going in to his TO season is traded between end of season and contract decisions, the TO is automatically picked up. Players going into their PO season cannot be traded until after contract decisions and the player has made his decision on said PO

Ocons · Post by **Ocons** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:52 pm

Ok, sounds like we made a change. Makes sense, thanks!

Post by KW » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:57 pm

Ocons wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:52 pm Ok, sounds like we made a change. Makes sense, thanks!

nah I don't think that ever changed. you can't trade a player and then decline a team option in real life either. only works with unguaranteed contracts, which we've never had here

Post by **Myles** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:06 pm

Ocons wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:52 pm Ok, sounds like we made a change. Makes sense, thanks!

I think you’re thinking of the NLL, where it happened a few times when I first joined and then they closed it up there too.

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